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$2700 Chargeback Opened 450 Days Later for a second time!!! Shopify doesn’t care!!!

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Issue
Customer opened a second chargeback 450 days after initial purchase and 365 days after winning the first chargeback dispute; Shopify refuses to close it despite acknowledging it should not be possible, forcing merchant to defend identical $2,700 fraud case twice.
Cost
$2,700
Recommendation
Sue the customer for recovery (khoelzeman); consider debt collection service like TSI that works on commission (kosweeps); none from Shopify
Date context
2025-10-31; chargeback timeline spans 450 days with exact 365-day gap between decisions
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We verify every order over $1000 since we deal with higher end devices. He opened it for "item not as described" which is notoriously hard for sellers to win. We say, ship it back and we will refund you. He says there's a swollen battery he can't return it to us via mail. We’ve shipped tens of thousands of batteries and never had anyone tell us we cant but this guy starts quoting ups and lithium rules. So we open an ups hazmat. Nope, he says the managers still preventing him. We call and talk to the manager and he says the customer claimed it was smoking and sparking. He's setting up a narrative. So he on his own then contacts "Americase" to help strengthen his baseless claims. He has Americase write us saying he can't ship it. I contact them as well and they say he was trying to convince them to write the email which they did. At this point, I opened a fraud case with my local police department. I tell them they're now involved in the case. They apologize and say he was trying to manipulate the situation. They write an email that I use as evidence against Kyle. They give me the box for free which I ship directly to him. Guess what, he claims ups still won’t take it. UPS says he never showed up. So, my chargeback response has a police report, America's rep, ups rep, hazmat rep, etc. and guys I actually won! It was a great feeling. But how, 365 days exactly from when the chargeback was found in our favor and 450 days since the item was received the somehow has opened another chargeback. I contact Shopify and it’s a joke. From all research this should NOT be possible without some special situation. Shopify agrees but say I need to treat it like a new chargeback and even through its duplicative will not close it! Shopify doesn’t care about your money and doesn’t go to bat for you when you need it. If any of you have any advice I’m all ears. Ty in advance.

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[score=62] khoelzeman
It's a shitty situation, but Shopify isn't the one deciding a chargeback - that would be the card holders bank. Fraud happens, it sucks. $2700 is enough to sue him for - in this instance, if you have a loss sue him. You have evidence.
[score=16] kosweeps
After launching on Amazon we're finally going to launch our Shopify store as well, so I have no experience with this, but I'm sure I will. This is a post from yesterday about chargebacks on Shopify. OP has a similar frustration. [https://www.reddit.com/r/shopify/comments/1okb701/we\_need\_to\_talk\_about\_chargebacks\_this\_system\_is/](https://www.reddit.com/r/shopify/comments/1okb701/we_need_to_talk_about_chargebacks_this_system_is/) In the comments, the OP explains that they use a debt collection service when they get a chargeback that they should have won. The company name is TSI. I saved the website as a reminder for when we launch to look into that company or another one. The companies work on commission, maybe 20-30% of what they recover or something, but It's like when I used a service to recover lost reimbursement from Amazon, getting something back is better than losing it all. For this jerk it would be worth it just see their smug jaw drop...Makes me angry for you.
[score=23] Bubbly_Setting_4217
I make chargebacks a game anymore. I absolutely love shredding them with evidence and ruining their day when they lose. We win 99% of them.
[score=4] chisairi
I didn’t know you can open chargeback on an already finalized chargeback case.