You will never make money as a "founder" in 2025

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Founder ecosystem flooded with productivity tools, courses, and communities targeting founders rather than solving real product problems; actual SaaS profitability and product launches haven't increased proportionally despite explosion of founder-focused services.

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2025-10-25; references current LinkedIn and Twitter trends

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anthropic/claude-haiku-4.5 · 2026-05-08

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I've been watching the founder ecosystem explode over the past year, and there's something fascinating happening. We now have more "founders" than ever. LinkedIn is drowning in them. Twitter is full of "building in public" threads. But here's what's strange: actual product launches haven't increased proportionally. Neither have real SaaS companies reaching profitability. What we *have* seen is an explosion of: * Productivity tools for founders * Communities for founders * Courses teaching founders * Newsletters about founding * Tools to help founders build tools The picks-and-shovels game has never been better. Why? Because the identity of "founder" has become more appealing than the reality of building a product. It's easier to buy a course about validating ideas than to actually talk to 50 potential customers. It's more comfortable to join a community than to write cold emails. This isn't criticism, it's market observation. If you're actually building something real, you're now competing in a space where most "competitors" are just role-playing. And if you're selling tools to founders, you've found a market that's growing faster than the actual problems they're meant to solve. The question is: which side of this do you want to be on?

Top comments (6)

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[score=135] MoveOverBieber

What I am seeing recently a lot of, are people who have no experience or connections or resources, just stars in their eyes. Nothing is wrong with dreaming and everyone has to start somewhere, but it is creating a lot of noise, seems to be "fashion" these days.

[score=95] Hustle000777

GPT ass posts needs to be banned

[score=19] Hot_Builder_9990

I was just thinking that most of the "Saas" tools launches we see here on Reddit is just something targeting other founders that also do not have any money. Instead of you know real produts like PIM, accounting systems and what not. So i think you are right.

[score=40] ElectricalLettuce91

My experience is - depends on who and how “founder” is defined. Since it’s a self-selecting label anyone can give it to themselves.

[score=14] Jpahoda

For me it’s really simple: it’s about the customer. And if the SV-led narcissist techbro founder market hits an iceberg I’ll promise to play a really small violin all the way to the glorious end to wish good riddance.